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Wednesday, August 22, 2007

Sunmade/12 Tribes

*this comes from the "scams" board at freelance writing.com

summie50@hotmail.com
12 tribes, Excel, or the Vine
or a person named Sunmade.

Owes clients money currently for projects done. Also has sold articles to associated content that were written by others and that were never paid. Also, creates deadlines that are impossible to meet and takes money away from writers who cannot meet them.

27 comments:

Anonymous said...

I had also undergone the same experience with the same guy, Sunmade. was asked to write articles and then gave complaints that the articles were copied, when they weren't. have a pending payment of $20 to come; and he has given some reason for the non payment of the money. stir clear of this guy.

Matthew said...

I've had problems with this person too. At first he paid on time, but then they started to taper off. After a month or so I was accused of plagarism and essentially fined a certain amount of money. (I was not informed of this "fine" until after I'd stop working for Sunmade). Sunmade said that his client had told him that I had plagarized a number of articles. He never bothered to check the validity of these statements despite my telling him that I hadn't copied anything and that the articles had passed Copyscape. I eventually concluded that it's possible that he had fabricated the client's complaint because he didn't want to pay me.

Don't trust this person. When someone takes work from you and doesn't pay, that person has just stolen from you. This person stole from me and wasted my time. Don't let yourself fall victim to the same.

Anonymous said...

I've seen this person post jobs that have been previously offered to me by an Indian company, Crewind Ltd.

Either he/she works for Crewind and is trying to get free work for the company (they are slow to pay and have to be asked quite a number of times so this is possible) or else they have been hired as a freelance writer and are scamming real writers out of their hard work.

The person from Crewind who offered me the jobs that have been posted by 12tribes regularly change their email address and tend to offer jobs at a reasonable pay but then claim that the pay rate has been lowered once he received completed work.

I complained about this after it occurred a number of times and never heard from them again. Luckily, the amount of money owed at that time was very small, maybe $20 but its the principle of the matter.

Anonymous said...

This is definitely a scam. I was hired by sunmade through an online agency that gets 10% of pay for the services they provide. This sunmade person tried to circumvent the agency and pay directly, which I felt completely unethical, and could have gotten me kicked off the site. This person is very bad news.

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Anonymous said...

I have had a similar experience with this person: 12 tribes/summie50@hotmail.com. He owes me USD 25 and has refused to pay up. Says articles were copied,when infact they had passed copyscape.
THIS GUY IS A THIEF !

Anonymous said...

the guy above who just left a comment is actually one of the people mentioned above called 'Rahul Valia'. He changed his name to 'Pallavi Singhal' and tried to deceive 12tribes again by submitting copied work. Again he claims the work passed copyscape even though he lifted sentence from various sources without referencing them. he plaigarized his articles and still insists th he owed money for them.

It may be that this person truly does not know the difference between original work and copied work and to reference articles. I've advised him to learn to paraphrase and to stop lifting sections of sentences from othr peoples work if he wants to succeed as a writer.

scammed byrahul said...

Rahul Valia - rahul.valia@gmail.com

is a scammer. There are many people scammed by this person. Please watch out for him.

whalecdo said...
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Anonymous said...

Hello World,

This message is from someone who is a supposed fraudster. Yes, I accept. I accept that I didn't pay the person above for the work that he did. i asked him to give 10 articles in 24 hours
rahul valia: when it was half an hour to the deadlin, he mails me saying 'i am too lazy. Perhaps holiday hangover' and gives me only 4 of them
rahul valia: and asks for a 24 hour extension, which i obviously couldnt agree on.
I was pissed off as i now had half an hour to do 6 articles
naturally i didnt reply back
after 2 days, he gives me the remaining 6
when i said, i dont need them, and that he could sell them off to someone, he turned hostile and started threatening me and posted this.

Am I a fraud? You decide. I rest my case.

P.S. And yes, Whaledco doesnt know Copyscape and calls himself a writer

Thanks for your time.

Regards

Rahul Valia

Writers said...

So, wait. I am confused. Sunmade is a person who is scamming others. One of the persons who claimed Sunmade scammed him was Rahul Valia. However, others have now claimed that Rahul Valia has scammed THEM?

Have started a new thread for Rahul Valia. Let's keep this one about Sunmade, as to not confuse everyone else.

Anonymous said...

"One of the othr anonymous fabricators who is probably the worst of the bunch is called:

Keisha Ruff (which may not be here real name). She is a vindictive, lazy and manipulative writer who trid to blackmail 12tribes through a series of empty threats. This so-called writer is unable to follow guidelines and meet deadlines. Hire her at your own risk."
------------------------------
See for yourself: I deliberately misspelled words. The person who posted them copied my articles word for word, including my mistakes. My articles are located here:
www.makingmillions.0catch.com/stolen.html
and
www.makingmillions.0catch.com/stolen2.html

When either of these pages are put through copyscape it brings up a few "authors" on AssociatedContent.com

I urge you all to see for yourself. I am not a liar or a cheat, but I am still pissed for being ripped off.

P.S. The NASA article was written by me at the end of July 2007, but IRONICALLY not published by Teya Jacobs on associated content until Aug, 6th 2007.

We must be long lost twins to have written the exact same article, word for word. What does everyone else think?

Keisha

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Anonymous said...

Hi guys,

Crewind has its own content writers and doesn't require freelancers. Any writing job posted in the name of Crewind is scam, beware!

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146/9 Nelson Manickam Road, Aminjikarai
Chennai, Tamil Nadu 600055 India
O: 914423742203
F: 914442113777
www.crewind.com

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O: 23742203

Punniya Kumar
Director
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Punith A
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O: 23742203/04
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I have written more than 40 articles for them, total $180.50 pending... I have sent them mail for last 14 days without any success... I will contact them by phone tomorrow and let you know what happen then but the company is total Fraud...

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Roul said...

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